she made a determination. i add there's an important distinction between tripoli, the capital, and benghazi. according to the testimony, even with additional forces in place, remember, additional forces, the question was for tripoli, not benghazi, that the heavy armor could not have been stopped by a fewer additional men on the ground. >> did you want to say -- >> some element of added security would have stayed with the embassador. he's the person -- >> he asked for more body guards. >> exactly. we can't know what effect that would have had on that night that, dreadful night in benghazi. the second point is the woman at the state department who made the call was acting, the framework of policy. the policy toward libya was, attitude was, this was now a country of friendlies.